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FOX News
Nov 30, 2012 6:00pm PST
democratic senators are balking on this current is 35%. the obama offer contained no serious cuts, no serious reforms to entitlement programs and no serious proposals of tax reform this president had the gall to count savings more than one billion dollars from ending wars in iraq and afghanistan no one has proposed war spending over the next decade that includes cuts to domestic programs agreed to last year, fuzzy washington math. what this is obama's propose last year which received zero votes in the house or senate this is disguised as a so-called compromise offer. don't be fooled it is no such thing. the so-called offer was nothing less than a disgrace what he did yesterday with geithner. the proposal was as dishonest and misleading as date is long. the question is, how should the gop respond to this travesty? republicans should do several things. first, do what senator mcconnell did yesterday, laugh at the obama proposal. second, refuse to negotiate with obama, seriously. in other words, essentially republicans have gotta walk away, it is up to obama to make a serious proposal. instead of
FOX News
Nov 30, 2012 2:00am PST
presented a budget a serious real budget with real cuts, obama was supposed to give a speech in which he would respond with a counteroffer. he gave a speech we had ryan sitting in the front row. he called the ryan proposal unamerican offered nothing and read on a med scare in the next 18 months. they expect republicans are going to do this again? republicans are going to walk on this. >> moving right along to stories you can bank on this morning, have you ever booked a vacation on-line and maybe wondered where all of the fees came from? a new report says you are not alone in the hotels may be to blame. shocker. joining us with more is robert gray. i found it interesting, the phrase, drift pricing? >> drift pricing it drifts over to your bill. resort fees you go to the web site you think i am booking this for x dollars a night and it's 50 percent more according to some reports. it's everything from newspapers to the gym in some cases internet access that will you would take for granted and not even know you are getting charged for. >> similar to the airlines with extra fees. >> $1 trillio
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 10:00pm PST
sandy politicians making big promises, president obama promising to cut the red tape. now have they all forgotten about the victims? we're back with our political panel. john, you can see the frustration, you know. the man blasting president obama about his vacation to hawaii, just said he doesn't have electricity. you know, what about it? >> it's perfectly understandable and justified. i mean, you have the entire national media swoop in for a story where president obama and chris christie shook hands and that was supposed to be his great heartwarming moment where they were going to come together to fix things. now a month later there are real problems here and government just simply hasn't been working for a lot of these people. you have stories where there are perfectlily got fema trailers sitting in pennsylvania when they could be put to use in new york or new jersey. >> greta: why aren't they there? >> no one knows. i don't know. you hear people telling stories about filling out forms, people who are approved to use the money to stay at a marriott but not a comfort inn. there are so
FOX News
Dec 1, 2012 1:00pm PST
furious at relief response and president obama. >> president obama, he said he was going to cut through the red tape. he lied. he says, what do you mean? i said you lied. (car horn) paying with your smartphone instead of cash... (phone rings) that's a step forward. with chase quickpay, you can send money directly to anyone's checking account. i guess he's a kicker... again, again! oh, no you don't! take a step forward and chase what matters. >>. >> heather: two people have died after a bus crash in florida. the doubling decker was carrying 32 members of a church group when it slammed in an overpass. >> people in wyoming say the man involved in a deadly attacks yesterday used a bow and arrow in one of killings. authorities say this christopher krum first stabbed a woman on friday and then went to the college where his father was teaching and shot him with a bow and arrow. he later stabbed and killed himself. >> more than hundred people are waiting to return to home after a train derailment after toxic gas was found leaking in the neighborhood. >> gregg: anger appears to be boiling over a
FOX News
Dec 3, 2012 7:00pm PST
for themselves. that is despite president obama's promise to cut the red tape. we're joined by a man from the meeting. tom, i take it this gentleman was not the only one who was distraught with fema, is that right? >> of course. almost everybody at that meeting has different issues with fema, whether you lost your whole house and you have flood insurance or you don't have flood insurance. you know, that's where they're at. some people lost half their house, cars, you know. there's a lot of discrepancy in how fema lets out the money, you know. i can tell you stories where people, i know two people who had the same amount of damage, and one person, and they live on the same type of concrete slab, foundation house, right. and one person's floor is not their living quarters because they had three floors and one person's floor is their living quarters because there's only two floors. that person got 2000. she had like 8 inches of water in her living roo room on the ft floor which causes a lot of damage because it soaks up to all the drywall, and this other person who it wasn't her living quart
FOX News
Nov 30, 2012 3:00am PST
. and they are waiting for fema to help for more than a month. >> i told president obama you told us you would cut the red tape. the middle class gets the royal finger. he said fema worked for me. fema ain't doing anything. >> steve: it a town hall that turned into a town brawl. ready to almost go over the edge? looks like you have a friend as well rick. >> as promised brian cashman and bobby valentine. bobby's first time and he wants to go face first. we'll see if that can happen. right now we'll go to break. "fox and friends" is back in two minutes. [ malannouncer ] it'that time of year again. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. a hybrid? most
FOX News
Dec 1, 2012 9:00am PST
obama believes in the clinton tax cuts, let them go back into affect for the entire country and see if the country believes they are good for america. >> the president is campaign acting like he received a anytime percent man date when he only received half. what impact is this having on the psyche of the gop. >> it is affecting the psyche of the president. he's act being like he did win a huge victory . he did win a substitute victory and what happened to the republicans is, they are fearful of all of these taxes going up they are trying to a bargain in good faith to give away something and then say if you will give us something and make us look good. don't humiliate us. the democrats are humiliating the republican party in making that offer . i think their own dignity and principles and beliefs, what republicans ought to say is, we think that extending the tax cuts pay roll and bush tax cuts is good for economy and america and consistent with our principles and blives and you are not going to put a gun to our head and testimony us to give up all of these things and we'll vote thes
CBS
Dec 3, 2012 4:00am PST
off the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in next year. john boehner said he can't believe the latest white house proposal. the obama administration insists there's no deal without a tax increase. susan mcginnis is in washington with details this morning. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. it may appear the two sides are nowhere but these talks are expected to pick up dramatically very soon. december is here and as they say here in washington the lawmakers can smell the jet fumes meaning the planes taking them home for their holiday recess. what we're hearing there should be a deal by christmas. the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover. timothy geithner was on the hill last week to present the president's plan to congress. >> i was fl
CSPAN
Dec 4, 2012 7:00am EST
that they should agree with president obama and extend the tax cuts for middle-class americans and then fight later on for that tax cut for the wealthy. we will ask him about this latest proposal, the counterproposal from the house republicans. j.d. on twitter says -- on our republican , richard from colorado springs, colorado. caller: c-span could put on actual science. i think there is a lot of magical thinking on the part of democrats here. first of all, they are assuming if they raise the taxes on this one%, it will not affect the jobs and the companies that they work for. nor would it affect the customers they have. what are the percentages of the most important job creators around? how did you identify them? they had no clue. i think the other aspect of magical thinking is that in the noise and the signal, nate silver pointed out previously a 12% rise in gdp might ake for a 2% rise in employment. in 2005, we got 3.5 million jobs lost. it is a fantasy to believe that the president's spending is going to make employment rise more. recently, there has been an article by a harvard university law
CSPAN
Dec 6, 2012 1:00am EST
president obama's own self- described architecture of $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new revenue. we are prepared to work and call on the white house to do the same thing. >> speaker boehner, president obama, the white house projection last offer -- \[inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard line on those making 250 and above. >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. \[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of the situation that our country faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can
FOX Business
Dec 3, 2012 8:00pm EST
in u.s., and internationally. neil: they will want to first cut loopholes there that would make it less attractive, if you are barack obama you should be rooting for this. that means less attractive for those company to do over there and stay here. >> u.k. prospects should be subject to u.k. corporate tax. neil: should you pair spending in other areas to adjust. >> spending is very much down in the u.k. that is the problem, that is the argument shared sacrifice. neil: what about the princess? >> i told jonathan hunt last week that i thought kate middleton is pregnant, i am pleased to be right. neil: she has very bad morning sickness. >> which is why it was revealed early, it was revealed 12 weeks, it is to be expected. the role of the roll wife to provide an heir and a spare immediately. neil: dogs teach a lesson about living, they don't know the future, they have forgotten the pass, they are tree t free to ls straight in the eye, but is that any reason to bring them to work? former "seinfeld" star's choice to bridg bring canines to work. . which is why we are proud to parer with health
NBC
Nov 30, 2012 5:30pm PST
for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. >> reporter: speaking at a factory, mr. obama argued that if congress can't get a deal, taxes will rise about $2,000 average for a family. of coal you get for christmas, that is a scrooje christmas. >> let's not kid ourselves. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner balked. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from the economy that needs to be invested in the economy to put people back to work. it is the wrong approach. >> reporter: bolder by his re-election, and criticized for being soft on republicans in the past, he drew a hard line, including $1.6 trillion in revenues, $600 billion in additional spending cuts, about half in medicare, and at least $50 billion infrastructure spending. >> we don't want to increase tax rates, we're not going to increase tax rates. and we want to do something about the spending problem. >> reporter: aides say senate minority leader mcconnell laughed after tim geithner showed him the offer thursday. t
NBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:00pm EST
. >> pentagon and other federal agencies are beginning the process for preparing for deep spending cuts. with 27 days to go fiscal friday worked. >> we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> house republican leaders called for a sit-down with president obama and blasted him for turning down their deal. >> he put an offer on if table and he has rejected it. where are the specifics? where are the discussions? >> the president pointed the finger right back. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> telling business leaders that if they use the fiscal cliff to wage a deal they have another thing coming. >> it is a bad strategy for america and it is not a gamely play. >> the stalemate comes as both parties remain at odds on whether to raise taxes on the welty and how deep to cut entitlement programs like social security and medicare. >> just because we're at a stalemate doesn't mean we won't get to a deal. >> they explain that grand standing is part of the play book. >> they will use every day between christmas and new years to push back and forth to have each side air their grievances. >> lawmak
CNN
Nov 30, 2012 11:00am PST
are at a stand still. president barack obama says republicans must agree to preserve a middle class tax cut as the first part of any deal and he likened republicans to scrooge today, while touring a pennsylvania toy factory. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> the president's proposal calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue. $50 billion for new stimulus spending. and about $400 billion in entitlement cuts. republicans say the president's opening bid is nothing but a political stunt. so where does that leave us? after months of hearing about the fiscal cliff, there are no signs of a compromise plan. let's bring in senior congressional correspondent miss dana bash. dana? republicans say president obama's opening offer is, you know, all take and no give here. do they feel like the president is
FOX News
Nov 30, 2012 6:00am PST
middle income tax cut to the floor. >> reporter: later on today president obama will say that any deal reached in congress must include increased tax rates on the wealthiest americans. he will say that at a factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, where the company connects, makes tinker toys. that is company the white house picked for today's event because they rely on the middle class consumers who would be affected if we go off the fiscal cliff. martha. martha: that will be a major sticking point it sounds like. peter, thank you very much. bill: so what happens if your taxes or to your taxes if lawmakers don't strike a deal? the tax policy center says that 90% of the americans would see a tax hike next year in 2013. it says 121 million americans will be paying more in payroll taxes, and families making between 40 and $65,000 a year, will pay an extra $2,000 to the government. that starts in 2013. martha: some say that they're concerned that what happens in europe could also happen here down the road. look at europe's economy down the road. 11.7% unemployment. that is another record high i
NBC
Dec 5, 2012 5:00pm EST
both houses. meanwhile, the white house said tonight president obama has a two-step plan. the first is to extend the middle class tax cuts while allowing cuts for the wealthiest americans to expire. the second is to call for tax reform by august 1st of next year. in the meantime, the nation's debt ceiling is looming in january. the president's warning republicans not to include any debt limit concessions in their fiscal cliff strategy. >>> we have had a lovely week around here. but it's time to get back to a little december reality. >> would you look at that. veronica has a look at another change coming our way. what about it, veronica? >> do you like that sunset? isn't that gorgeous? >> it's lovely. >> fiery red there on the horizon. and not a bad day. the wind picked up a bit. that northwesterly wind behind the cold front that came through very early this morning. high temps in fact for today, 60 degrees. that was at 5:00 a.m. we now stand in the mid-50s. pretty much falling temps all day. now 55 degrees. trinidad, and good afternoon to you folks in tyson's corner. up north, alrea
FOX News
Dec 1, 2012 3:00am PST
just yet. >> and i told president obama, you told us you were going to cut the red tape. and i told him, the middle class getting the royal finger. what did he say? fema works for me. fema ain't doing nothing still. they keep going around in a circle. >> this family joins us next to share their story. >> then so long dollar bill. hello dollar coin. why lawmakers say it's time for some more change. [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor tool helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] without feeling queasy. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. >> 7:21 eastern. news by the numbers. 34 million. that's how many nutrition signs will have to be posted in pizza chains like dominoes. one for each pizza combination. thanks to obama care requirement. the cos
ABC
Dec 5, 2012 12:00am PST
for a reason, not just to get my hair cut. but i wanted to ask you guys some political questions. barack obama is winning the african-american vote by a margin of 94% to 3%. >> no kidding. >> jimmy: okay? so, the question i want to ask you is, what do you think mitt romney can do to get more of the black vote? >> turn black. >> he is drop out the race. >> jimmy: how many of you are planning to vote? >> we all are. >> jimmy: you all are? >> you're not? >> i can't right now. due to circumstances. in a couple years, i'll be all right. >> jimmy: so, mitt's not worried about you? >> nah. >> jimmy: quick show of hands. how many of you are mormon? really? [ laughter ] so, mitt romney said that his personal vice is chocolate milk. does that make you feel -- is that something? >> no, not at all. >> most black people are lactose intolerant. so, that's not even going to work. >> jimmy: is that true? >> it's very true. >> jimmy: really? what percent would you guess? >> show of hands. >> jimmy: black-tose intolerant? if you will. >> that's good. >> jimmy: you guys have nicknames, right? >> yeah. >> jimmy:
CNN
Dec 6, 2012 6:00am PST
. in case you forgot the former senator is one half of the simpson bowles duo appointed by president obama who actually came up with a plan to cut the deficit, a plan that everyone hailed as magnificent but no one wanted to adopt. >>> joining me now is cnn contributor will cain. he leans right. good morning, will. >> good morning. let me tell you something. you said the popularity of gangnam style knows no limits. i beg to differ. >> you do? >> i think we just found its limits, when 8-year-olds start doing gangnam style you can count on its popularity decreasing. we're about a year away from it being makarena. >> trying to get two sides come together to come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> i don't know about young people's abilities to force cats and dogs and democrats and republicans to come together to find a deal. he had a much more profound message than just simply dancing in that clip, in that psa essentially. he was trying to alert young people to the fact that old people, bluntly, are organized. look at the army of aarp representatives that ensure that programs like medicare and s
FOX News
Dec 3, 2012 1:00pm PST
is the way to go, the problem is in most of europe it means higher taxes, obama wants to give us the bad part of europe, without the good part. >>neil: thank you very much. they are not cutting anything. just slowing the growth. rebound and former president bill clinton hitting the links. this is a photo from last year. what we don't know what was said teen them this year my guest homes the former president was critiquing more than just his successor's swing. art laffer was the top reagan economic adviser and you voted twice for bill clinton because his prosecutor mix of taxes. explain that? >>guest: yes i sure did. but for the raise hikes at top end, he cut taxes on the working people between ages of 65 and 72. he cut taxes on trade and products. he cut government spending as a share g.d.p. dramatically and he cut the capital gains tax rate and butt in welfare reform. what do you want from a president that bill clinton did not deliver? he was a great president. >>neil: the investment taxes was that concurrent with what was going on in the income tax hike front? >>guest: no. it was not. the c
CBS
Dec 5, 2012 5:00pm EST
hikes and spending cuts inches closer. no face-to-face talks are scheduled at this time. but as danielle nottingham reports, president obama is continuing his push to sell to the american public. >> reporter: house members left the capitol in the middle of the fiscal fight. they're not due back until next week. but house speaker john boehner is staying behind, ready to sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican propoise -- proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making more than $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. >> reporter: republicans say if bush-era tax cuts are not extended for everyone, it will hurt the economy. and they invited small business owners here to capitol hill to make their point. >> max olson opened an shrpses company this year. and is concerned he won't be able to add
Current
Nov 30, 2012 11:00pm PST
who get 'em and on don't. >> jennifer: that was president obama at the connect toy factory factory. he was warning congress they might end up on the naughty list. and he asked republicans to extend the bush era tax cuts for those making less than $250,000, but not for those making more. echoing the holiday theme with this grinch like association. >> let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. >> jennifer: stalemate. didn't we just start talking? oh wait, he's just posturing right? to sort out the latest tough talk from the posture is michelle bernard founder of the bernard center center for women public policy. welcome back inside "the war room," michelle. >> thank you. >> jennifer: so, how serious is the stalemate that speaker boehner announceed today? >> i was listening to that sound bite a second ago and i don't know if i want to cry or if i want to laugh. i don't know how we get to a stalemate when number one the negotiations just began. number two the president has presented congress with his proposal and we have not heard anything from the republicans
CSPAN
Nov 29, 2012 10:00am EST
at the issue of the payroll tax cut. kim dixon, when did the payroll tax cuts issue come into effect? guest: about two years ago at this time. expiration of the bush-era tax cuts that began in 2001 were set to expire. republicans control the house. president obama wanted to continue them for everybody except those in the top 2% tax rate. --wasn't ended the year deal it was an end-of-the-year deal. the obama administration was looking for the stimulus measure. they thought it would be hard for republicans to oppose a tax cuts. host: the money rigidly was going where -- the money originally was going where? guest: going to the social security trust >> we take you live now to the u.s. capitol and house speaker john boehner. >> the president has warned us about the dangers of going over the fiscal cliff. but his actions have not matched his public statements. momings of his own party seem quite comfortable on sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago we had a very productive conversation at the white house. based on where we stand today i would say two things. first, despite the
FOX News
Nov 30, 2012 1:00pm PST
-class tax cuts because they want to recollect their millionaire friends. if republicans are going to agree to higher tax rates for the highest bracket, do it quickly, and, then, president obama would be the one who is refusing it because he is throwing in all sorts of extra things like total executive branch control of the debt limit. >>neil: who came up with the $50 billion in new surplus spending in the middle of this? come on! >>guest: the question, it is an interesting offer, kind of an office that the president gave yesterday which was call it disrespectful, a disrespectful offer and the question is, are republicans going to take it personally and get mad about it? or will they say, well, this is the early stage. we are standing around and snorting and we will get down to serious stuff. but a lot of republicans were actually insulted by what the president did yesterday. >>neil: byron, good talking to you in washington, dc. not too far from where byron is sitting speaker boehner declaring a stalemate in the talks. can it be broken? and now to a washington congresswoman in her first int
FOX News
Dec 1, 2012 3:00pm PST
the deadline to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama proposing a plan that calls for a $1.6 trillion in tax increases over ten years. what's lacking is details on spending cuts. after weeks of talking, republicans saying the president is not meeting them halfway. >> there is a tail mate. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. you watched me over the last three weeks, i've been very guarded in what i have to say because i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to be able to find common ground. >> arthel: is the president looking to pick a fight with the gop and does he want to go over the fiscal cliff? joining us live now, susan estridge and fox news contributor. good to sigh. >> good to see you, art. >> arthel: so is it preposterous or practical to think that president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff? >> you know, art, i got to believe that at the end of the day, nobody wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i mean, the one thing we know that came out of this election, this very close election, was that people want b
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm EST
the same. you hear in the newspaper all the time, mr. speaker, the bush tax cuts. i don't know that that has meaning anymore. in 2001 and 2003 we did do some dramatic changes to tax policy. president obama extended all of those changes in 2010. that's the law of the land still today. tax policy has been exactly the same over this continuum. what has changed, mr. speaker, what has changed is the spending. the reason deficits have grown not one, not two, not three but almost four times larger than the previous record deficit in american history is not because tax policy has changed, it hasn't. it's because federal spending policy has changed. and that's what we have to get our arms around here in this body. what i show going forward, mr. speaker, put a little square around the annual budget deficits that have been run during the first four years of the obama administration, but i also project what the congressional budget office believes, that's a nonpartisan budget planning group we have here on capitol hill, what they believe is in store for us in the future if we continue unde
KRON
Dec 4, 2012 5:00pm PST
's mind right now. with about four weeks to go before that fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts gets triggered, negotiations still appeared at a standstill on tuesday. karin caifa tells us where everything stands. >> in the midst of a standoff with capitol hill republicans, president obama told bloomberg news that the latest plan put forth by house speaker john boehner, simply doesn't add up. the >> speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about, for example, eight hundred billion dollars worth of revenues but he says he will do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it does does not work. >> not work. as negotiations as negotiations to avoid the so-called "fiscal cliff" continue, republicans were equally dismissive of the last proposal from the president. >> his proposal was so outlandish i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. >> the key sticking point between the two sides hasn't changed -- tax rates for the wealthy. >> the math is clear. the only way to accomplish these things
CSPAN
Nov 30, 2012 9:00am EST
. mr. obama is trying to reach a deal with congress to avoid some of the automatic spending cuts and tax increases that take effect in january. live coverage from hatfield pennsylvania at noon eastern on c-span. >> program began under wraps who was one of the advisors to president franklin roosevelt. to document the conditions under which people were living. this was back when we didn't have television. we had radio, but a lot of places didn't have electricity so they couldn't listen to the radio broadcasts to find out what was going on in other parts of the country. striker, who is an economist from columbia university, he was the head of this project, and in 1939 when kodak introduce color film, they said film to roy stryker to have his photographers try out. see what they could do. kodak was trying to establish a new market, new product and they wanted people who would know how to use it effectively. to try it out and publicize it. >> america of the 1930s and '40s comes to life to the eye of the camera as library of congress curator shares some of the 1600 were photographs tak
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